Lierers

(12:58:39 PM) Jeff: howdy
(1:02:00 PM) Me: Hey
(1:02:24 PM) Jeff: how goes it
(1:04:03 PM) Me: Pretty good
(1:04:05 PM) Me: How are you doing?
(1:04:49 PM) Jeff: Doing good. I am trying to get used to my new instructors/professors. Many of them do not know english well.
(1:05:33 PM) Jeff: They are from north korea, china and france
(1:06:20 PM) Jeff: one calls us lierers and fakers because we don't ask question and says we are silly as americans
(1:07:18 PM) Me: haha
(1:07:32 PM) Me: What's a lierer?
(1:07:42 PM) Me: Is that a french accent?
(1:07:51 PM) Me: Or is that the north korean one?
(1:08:30 PM) Jeff: haha yea french he was trying to say we lie
(1:08:55 PM) Me: So he called everyone liars?
(1:09:13 PM) Jeff: yea pretty much
(1:09:18 PM) Me: On what basis?
(1:10:53 PM) Jeff: because we didn't ask questions. he said we couldn't possibly understand math and we are lieing about understanding it
(1:11:33 PM) Me: So lying through omission?
(1:11:37 PM) Me: I guess if you don't know what to ask...
(1:11:43 PM) Jeff: yea
(1:11:44 PM) Me: You're not really lying.
(1:12:06 PM) Jeff: no but he thinks we
(1:12:09 PM) Jeff: are
(1:13:33 PM) Me: So is this semester harder or easier than last semester?
(1:18:25 PM) Jeff: im hopeing easier
(1:22:43 PM) Me: So I guess it is too soon to tell

Self Examination

(3:35:57 PM) Sandy: I have a question for myself when you get a chance:)
(3:36:09 PM) Me: A question for yourself?
(3:36:10 PM) Me: haha
(3:36:23 PM) Sandy: k..will come back to it
(3:36:30 PM) Sandy: but let me try the dialog first

Cindy doesn't like to bigger size

(4:08:12 PM) Sandy: is there something i can do?
(4:08:23 PM) Me: For what?
(4:08:29 PM) Me: The about dialog?
(4:08:36 PM) Sandy: on my side to make the window look smaller
(4:08:38 PM) Me: Is there a problem with it?
(4:09:00 PM) Me: I don't know if the dimensions are controllable
(4:09:15 PM) Sandy: the about dialog from your export has the scroll bar
(4:09:24 PM) Sandy: it doesn't seem to look as good
(4:09:42 PM) Sandy: haha
(4:09:49 PM) Me: ...
(4:09:57 PM) Me: I just used what was in the repo to make a build
(4:10:12 PM) Sandy: thats waht i was thinking
(4:10:21 PM) Sandy: but not sure why exports differently
(4:10:27 PM) Me: Me either
(4:10:36 PM) Sandy: just that mine is xp and guees your winddows7
(4:10:58 PM) Me: Hmm, I don't remember if my remote machine is windows 7 or windows xp
(4:11:09 PM) Sandy: oh..
(4:11:17 PM) Sandy: but eclipse versions are different?
(4:11:25 PM) Sandy: mine 3.7
(4:11:46 PM) Sandy: sqeezing the text autamatically decreaded the size on mine
(4:11:53 PM) Sandy: decreased
(4:12:05 PM) Sandy: but appararently doesn't do the same on yours
(4:12:30 PM) Me: I'm not sure what you mean by "squeezing the text"
(4:12:48 PM) Sandy: haha
(4:12:58 PM) Sandy: breaking the longer lines
(4:13:21 PM) Me: Oh, you mean manually adding line breaks?
(4:13:24 PM) Sandy: the dialog box hugged the text" Cindy
(4:13:35 PM) Sandy: could try the line breaks
(4:13:55 PM) Me: I'm asking what is meant by breaking the longer lines
(4:14:15 PM) Me: Through an option or manually adding breaks?
(4:14:17 PM) Sandy: breaking means >br>
(4:14:30 PM) Me: Oh, you added <br> to the about text?
(4:14:39 PM) Sandy: no no
(4:14:44 PM) Sandy: try \n
(4:14:46 PM) Sandy: and see
(4:14:55 PM) Me: Well, I'm not remoted in right now
(4:15:14 PM) Sandy: k..
(4:15:19 PM) Me: And it is kind of a long process for something so minor...i don't know
(4:15:30 PM) Sandy: :)
(4:15:42 PM) Sandy: let me try and commit
(4:16:23 PM) Me: Let me see if there's a way to control the about text layout...could be a difference in eclipse versions, not sure.
(4:17:03 PM) Sandy: k..meanwhile i'll try the \n breaks
(4:18:47 PM) Me: I don't see anything in the official documentation here: http://help.eclipse.org/helios/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/guide/product_configproduct.htm
(4:21:00 PM) Sandy: hmm
(4:21:45 PM) Sandy: at one point the dialog was bigger
(4:22:02 PM) Sandy: and we tried to press enter between text
(4:22:11 PM) Sandy: and that made the dialog smaller
(4:22:27 PM) Sandy: but it does look smaller on my side
(4:22:33 PM) Sandy: and not the same when you export
(4:22:48 PM) Sandy: so was wondering if any line breaks would work at all
(4:25:22 PM) Me: I'm not sure
(4:26:04 PM) Me: I think there's one way you could increase the dialog size...
(4:26:22 PM) Sandy: we want to be able to decrease
(4:26:45 PM) Me: I'm so confused
(4:27:02 PM) Sandy: Cindy doesn't like to bigger size..
(4:27:10 PM) Me: I thought that in the image you sent, the image on the right was the one desired.
(4:27:10 PM) Sandy: so want to make it little bit smaller
(4:27:15 PM) Me: Cindy sent*
(4:27:53 PM) Me: Regardless, I think you may be to control the relative size somewhat by changing the size of the about image.
(4:28:04 PM) Me: may be able*
(4:29:02 PM) Sandy: the right side one is desired
(4:29:30 PM) Sandy: but the text needs to fot in the window without any extra space or scrollbars on the side

The Missing Tabs

(11:29:52 AM) Sandy: hey martin...I updated the app plugin
(11:30:25 AM) Sandy: what is the option for <better performance>?
(11:31:20 AM) Me: Did you update all the changed plug-ins, including <the main one>? I made the changes for you...

See: <link removed>
(11:31:38 AM) Sandy: oh...
(11:31:50 AM) Sandy: i updated all
(11:31:54 AM) Sandy: except <the main one>
(11:32:05 AM) Me: Oh, ok - update <the main one> and it should be fine
(11:32:10 AM) Sandy: let me do that now..i hope no conflicts
(11:32:16 AM) Sandy: :)
(11:32:25 AM) Me: Two lines of changes only: <link removed>
(11:32:54 AM) Sandy: k...thanks
(11:33:03 AM) Sandy: its fine
(11:33:06 AM) Me: Cool
(11:34:05 AM) Sandy: do we have the disappering image issue fixed in this update?
(11:34:31 AM) Me: Yeah
(11:34:47 AM) Me: I noted it on the testing doc as well
(11:34:49 AM) Sandy: yay..thanks:)
(11:34:52 AM) Me: Sure :)
(11:40:56 AM) Sandy: looks like the <other> issue is solved too..thanks
(11:41:24 AM) Me: Oh yeah, I merged a few different changes, haha. You're welcome.
(11:41:54 AM) Sandy: one question..the <product configuration file> ina pp plugin
(11:42:03 AM) Sandy: does not display some tabs anymore
(11:42:32 AM) Me: Are you viewing using the product configuration editor?
(11:42:36 AM) Sandy: missing tabs are extensions, plugin.xml ...
(11:42:38 AM) Me: Or in a text view?
 (11:42:50 AM) Sandy: configuration tab
(11:43:21 AM) Me: The product file does not have extensions or plugin.xml tabs
(11:43:44 AM) Me: That's the MANIFEST.MF file
(11:43:45 AM) Sandy: on my end both maifest.mf
(11:43:59 AM) Sandy: and product configuration would show similar tabs
(11:44:09 AM) Me: Similar, but never the same...
(11:44:16 AM) Me: they are two different types of configuration files
(11:44:30 AM) Sandy: yeah..would say similar not all the tabs
(11:44:36 AM) Me: One is specific to the plug-in, the other to the product application.
(11:44:43 AM) Sandy: yes..
(11:44:59 AM) Sandy: but I could atill see plugin.xml in both
(11:45:14 AM) Sandy: but not anymore
(11:45:29 AM) Me: That doesn't make sense. The plugin.xml file is not associated with the product file.
(11:45:42 AM) Me: Maybe you were viewing a different configuration file and got confused?
(11:45:58 AM) Me: Or maybe it is different in 3.7?
(11:46:02 AM) Me: I don't think so though
(11:46:10 AM) Me: The product file is self-contained
(11:46:32 AM) Sandy: I dont have it showing right now..so i cannot check and say much:)
(11:46:33 AM) Me: Should only show tabs "Overview", "Dependencies", "Configuration", "Launching", "Splash", "Branding", and "Licensing"
(11:46:44 AM) Me: ok...
(11:48:31 AM) Sandy: anyways...am still trying to figure out how my runtime environment is sdifferent
(11:48:43 AM) Sandy: to fix the fetching elements issue on my side

The Testing Build

(1:58:27 PM) Sandy: we wnat to try your export build for now
(1:58:41 PM) Sandy: just to have a one without fetching elements error
(1:58:45 PM) Sandy: waht do you say?
(1:59:39 PM) Me: Well, the only downside is it takes quite some time to transfer the files over there. So what I can do is update my environment on my remote machine there and attempt to make a build, and we can both see if that produces a build without the problems.
(2:00:20 PM) Sandy: if you are in middle of something else..dont worry
(2:00:39 PM) Me: Well, kinda, but I don't mind - it may help give us more information.
(2:00:42 PM) Sandy: since its plugin/environment issue on my machine
(2:00:51 PM) Sandy: i didn't want to cahnge any as yet
(2:00:53 PM) Me: Yeah
(2:01:14 PM) Sandy: if wont take much of your time
(2:01:19 PM) Me: I'm going to get on the VPN and update my source on my remote machine and make a build, I'll let you know when it is ready
(2:01:23 PM) Sandy: that will be helpful to try
(2:01:33 PM) Sandy: k..tnaks
(2:01:35 PM) Me: sure

...
(2:22:07 PM) Me: \\<path omitted>.zip
(2:23:01 PM) Me: I'm also getting a copy of it from the FTP and see if the error occurs on my end with this build.
(2:32:49 PM) Me: This is what I'm getting on my end: <link removed>

... (2:50:10 PM) Sandy: good
(2:50:28 PM) Sandy: sorry..we were having aaron's bday party cake
(2:50:45 PM) Sandy: so no errors on your side....thats good
(2:51:08 PM) Sandy: so do we have the export that we can test on
(2:51:11 PM) Sandy: ?
(2:52:15 PM) Me: Did you read my message above?
(2:52:49 PM) Me: (2:22:07 PM) Me: \\<path omitted>.zip
...

(3:12:37 PM) Sandy: thanks
(3:12:57 PM) Sandy: i read now...haha

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